I don't know if this was obvious from the issue, or I just read it wrong, but did Venka actually have to sleep with the Djun? Noooooo!!! (See Shards #9 )
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The answer to your question, is no. :P
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The answer to your question, is no. :P
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Ah, thank goodness!!!!! Then, can you explain the scene on pages 17, 18 and 19 (I think) in Shards 9 please? Where, the djun takes Venka to his room and sits on the bed and asks her to close the door, and then Two Edge sees and goes nuts....An internet review confirmed my greates fears, but I'm hoping there are other interpretations to that scene....
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...hmm...interesting. I don't think so, though. For two reasons:
1: He called her a demon...therefore, I don't think he would lie with her
because of that. What's more, he only wanted her as security. He
wanted her powers.
2. Two-Edge had already threatened the Djun before about hurting "his
maiden". Therefore, I don't think that he would try it with her!
...hmm...interesting. I don't think so, though. For two reasons:
1: He called her a demon...therefore, I don't think he would lie with her
because of that. What's more, he only wanted her as security. He
wanted her powers.
2. Two-Edge had already threatened the Djun before about hurting "his
maiden". Therefore, I don't think that he would try it with her!
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Yeah, I was thinking, if he already slept with Winnowill and she caused him problems, and then he noticed Venka had powers which could block Winnowill's, wouldn't he be worried what Venka could do to him..? Or something like that..
Knowing that Venka can block Winnie, he probably had her there so that he could catch some uninterrupted (relatively) safe sleep! :)
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Ah! Good point :D
Interesting question tho'. I honestly never thought of that when that part of the comic arose... ha-ha.... poor Two-Edge tho', if that was the case. 
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Interesting question indeed! It put a few icky images in my head, though!
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Hehe...sorry I brought this up, just had to ask after I read that thing on the net...^^; ICKY!
Don't worry Randy, when I re-read Shards recently, I was wondering the same thing - evil Djun, I hope he gets his! Oh wait...! :D
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I've always wondered about sexual contact between humans and elves. Just as Winnowill used her healing powers to conceive Two-edge with a troll, she assumed human form to seduce the Djunn. Aroree admits to having been intimate with Winnowill's human pets, but is not as successful with Little Patch. In "King's Crossing", the Djun forces a union between an elf and a human. So I guess it's physically possible, bu it helps if a healer is involved.
Time for the Trolls to take over!
from Facebook - Richard's statement on "On elves and humans doing the dirty deed"
The question has come up, from time to time, about whether or not there can be elf-human half-breeds in the world of Elfquest. The short answer is no.
Here's the longer answer, with amplification (maybe even up to 11):
Wendy and I decided long ago, at the very beginning, that there would be no elf-human cross-breeds in the world of Elfquest. Mostly, we did this for one very good reason: So many other fantasy worlds allow them, and to us the elf-human mix has become, well, kind of tired and a bit boring. I don't know where the first elf-human cross-breed appeared in fantastic literature, but it's a stone fact that you don't have to look far on the shelves in the fantasy section of the local Barnes & Noble to find some thick tome (or trilogy) that includes them. We always wanted Elfquest to be different.
For Elfquest specifically, and tales in general, we have a storytelling rule that we stick to just as much as possible. In symbols, it is
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In words, it is this: A thing is either impossible (meaning it has a 0 chance of happening), unique (meaning there is truly only 1 example of it, ever) or it is common (thus, potentially, infinite). For example: We allowed Timmain, who was very magically powerful in the beginning of EQ history, to shape-change down to the genetic level and mate with a wolf to create the Wolfriders. So such a feat was not impossible, but we decided that it would be a unique thing. It could happen only once in the world of Elfquest, to avoid having a million elf-animal creatures running around. (And, knowing something about how fanfic works, there would indeed be many elf-cat, elf-hawk, elf-platypus hybrids out there eventually.) We've also decided that the same applies to elf-troll crosses. As you all know, Winnowill mated with a troll to produce Two-Edge. But she also manipulated herself down to the cellular-genetic level to do this, because that's the kind of perversely curious creature Winnowill had become. But once again, we're going to keep that a unique occurrance.
Odd as it may seem, Recognition must fall into the "common" category, because it can happen more than once, even to the same elf couple. But here's where craft plays its role. Even though it's allowed, a good storyteller will not overuse a concept such as Recognition, lest it lose its power. For the Wolfriders, a small tribe often in danger, it is rare but frequent enough to allow the group to survive. And it is always welcomed. The Go-Backs have found a way to dispense with it altogether, and simply make more Go-Back babies as they need them. Leetah looked upon it as an unwelcome invasion of her personal integrity, until she let herself understand more fully. Recognition may potentially be common, but it should never be used in such a way that it feels common.
However, some things will stay impossible - and elf-human mating will be one of those. (We should note, that doesn't exclude the possibility of elf-human sex. Remember, Little Patch - youthfully wanting so much to be like an elf, attempted to join with Aroree. That experience freaked him out, but it's not impossible that another encounter might have different results. But again, a good storyteller will be sparing with such ideas, to avoid having them become humdrum.) Now, we must admit, we did allow a "what-if" tale to go into print, called "King's Cross," that explored what the history of the Wolfriders might have been had Cutter been the son of an elf-human joining. Even that story, however, remains a one-of-a-kind thread in the entire Elfquest tapestry.
The question has come up, from time to time, about whether or not there can be elf-human half-breeds in the world of Elfquest. The short answer is no.
Here's the longer answer, with amplification (maybe even up to 11):
Wendy and I decided long ago, at the very beginning, that there would be no elf-human cross-breeds in the world of Elfquest. Mostly, we did this for one very good reason: So many other fantasy worlds allow them, and to us the elf-human mix has become, well, kind of tired and a bit boring. I don't know where the first elf-human cross-breed appeared in fantastic literature, but it's a stone fact that you don't have to look far on the shelves in the fantasy section of the local Barnes & Noble to find some thick tome (or trilogy) that includes them. We always wanted Elfquest to be different.
For Elfquest specifically, and tales in general, we have a storytelling rule that we stick to just as much as possible. In symbols, it is
0 1 ∞
In words, it is this: A thing is either impossible (meaning it has a 0 chance of happening), unique (meaning there is truly only 1 example of it, ever) or it is common (thus, potentially, infinite). For example: We allowed Timmain, who was very magically powerful in the beginning of EQ history, to shape-change down to the genetic level and mate with a wolf to create the Wolfriders. So such a feat was not impossible, but we decided that it would be a unique thing. It could happen only once in the world of Elfquest, to avoid having a million elf-animal creatures running around. (And, knowing something about how fanfic works, there would indeed be many elf-cat, elf-hawk, elf-platypus hybrids out there eventually.) We've also decided that the same applies to elf-troll crosses. As you all know, Winnowill mated with a troll to produce Two-Edge. But she also manipulated herself down to the cellular-genetic level to do this, because that's the kind of perversely curious creature Winnowill had become. But once again, we're going to keep that a unique occurrance.
Odd as it may seem, Recognition must fall into the "common" category, because it can happen more than once, even to the same elf couple. But here's where craft plays its role. Even though it's allowed, a good storyteller will not overuse a concept such as Recognition, lest it lose its power. For the Wolfriders, a small tribe often in danger, it is rare but frequent enough to allow the group to survive. And it is always welcomed. The Go-Backs have found a way to dispense with it altogether, and simply make more Go-Back babies as they need them. Leetah looked upon it as an unwelcome invasion of her personal integrity, until she let herself understand more fully. Recognition may potentially be common, but it should never be used in such a way that it feels common.
However, some things will stay impossible - and elf-human mating will be one of those. (We should note, that doesn't exclude the possibility of elf-human sex. Remember, Little Patch - youthfully wanting so much to be like an elf, attempted to join with Aroree. That experience freaked him out, but it's not impossible that another encounter might have different results. But again, a good storyteller will be sparing with such ideas, to avoid having them become humdrum.) Now, we must admit, we did allow a "what-if" tale to go into print, called "King's Cross," that explored what the history of the Wolfriders might have been had Cutter been the son of an elf-human joining. Even that story, however, remains a one-of-a-kind thread in the entire Elfquest tapestry.
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Nothing hints at the Djun 'sleeping with Venka', if you pay attention..
The Djun simply USES her as a way to get some sleep..
..well aware of the danger that Winnowill represents to him if he ever sleeps unguarded!
As for sexual contact between elves and humans, it has been tried many times, all along.
What I retrospectively find EXTREMELY strange about this matter is Timmain preferring elf-wolf mating..
..to elf-human mating.
..or maybe OTHER elves succeeded in making such a mating fertile..
..and we don't yet know.
But Wendy DID express how adamantly opposed to such an option she was.
The Djun simply USES her as a way to get some sleep..
..well aware of the danger that Winnowill represents to him if he ever sleeps unguarded!
As for sexual contact between elves and humans, it has been tried many times, all along.
What I retrospectively find EXTREMELY strange about this matter is Timmain preferring elf-wolf mating..
..to elf-human mating.
..and we don't yet know.
But Wendy DID express how adamantly opposed to such an option she was.
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